Examination of Abell Warren

Citation: TCD, 1641 Depositions Project, online transcript January 1970
[http://1641.tcd.ie/deposition.php?depID?=812271r222] accessed Monday 25th of September 2017 06:09 PM

Dublin Core

Date: 1653-01-29
Identifier: 812271r222


1641 Deposition Item Type Metadata

County: Carlow & Killkenny
Deposition Type: Commonwealth
Nature of Deposition: Death, Killing, Robbery, Stripping
Commissioners: Richard Stephens, William Joyce
Deposition Transcription:

fol. 271r

Captain Abell Warren sworne & Eamined the 29th of January 1652 in Kilkeny sayth
That December the 23d 1641 after the English protestants in Kilkeny were preserved by the care & industry of the Countesse of Ormond in her Castle neither she nor they being longer able to subsist (there being neare 300 protestants) she prevailed with her Cousin Edward Butler of Vrlingford second <A> son to the lord Mountgarret, for a certaine summe of mony to Convoy them to the water side at Waterford & to send them safe in to that Cittie
According to agreement the mony which I suppose was 60 li.) was paid before hand for the said Edw: Butler would not stirre without it. And that we marched that night to Knocktopher, where the next morneing the said Captain Butler (for soe was he then called) pretended to haue som the toothacke (which was a meere treacherous designe in him as this Examinant is perswaded in his Conscience) and therevpon he did perfidiously forsake his charge of them contrary to his agreement with the Countesse of Ormond, & did not restore one pennie of the money back againe, that there with they mought haue provided another guard for themselves, by which breach of trust, there was one of the English murthered by the way & all the rest in very great hazard of being lost & that very <B> night being the 24th of Decemb. The said protestants were all robbed of theyre meanes by one of Captain Edw: Butler Complices. The Examinant being demanded further saith that the said Captain Butler was with his father Mountgarret at the [prundring] of the protestants in Kilkeny; & when som of them through the Cruelly of theire followers did did most miserably perrish being stripped naked in a very frosty season, and all men forbidden not giue them the

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least reliefe of bread or water, nor to give them one ragge to cover theire nakednes And there is noe doubt that had not the Countesse of Ormonds in[ ] vpon them prevailed with with, they had all certainely perrished by his hand.
<C> The Examinat further saith that there was noe Authority then in Ireland [ ] to countenance the proceedeings of those Rebells. And that Mountgarret as I am credibly informed received comission from the Lord Justices in Dublin to rayse forces and stoppe the Rebellion, which Comission he imployed against those from whome he had it. My cause of knowledge is because I was one of the number of those that were banished, & an hourely spectator of the pr premises, & much more which I haue since forgot
A: Warren
taken before us
Ri: Stephens
Will: Joyce

I desire the Atturney Generall to send for Mris West whoe lives in Dublin wife to Mr West the minister deceased & to examine her about this Butler. I thinke she lost som of her children at that time and likewise to enquire of some of the Earle of Ormonds seruants of a Scotts gentlewoman liueinge now in Dublin whoe was one of them [ ] that was saued by Edward Butlers order
Mrs West was sent for by the Committee
but says she knowes nothing of
any murthers

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fol. 272v

Captain Warre{n}

[ ] 6
The Examinacion of
Captain Abell Warren
against Butler
countiss of Ormond gave 50 li. to Ed
Butler to convoy English to Waterford
vndertooke it, tooke the money,
yett left them at Knoctopher; where
after one of them was kild, the rest
robd by his accomplices


Deponent Fullname: Abell Warren
Deponent Gender: Male
Deponent Occupation: Captain
Deponent County of Residence: Kilkenny
Mentioned Non-Deponent Fullnames: * Ormond, Edward Butler, lord Mountgarret, Lord Justices, Atturney Generall, Mris West, Mr West, Earle of Ormond
Mentioned Non-Deponent Roles: Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned