Deposition of Elizabeth Nelson

Collection: Bysse Depositions

Citation: TCD, 1641 Depositions Project, online transcript January 1970
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Dublin Core

Date: 1642-12-16
Identifier: 821153r109


1641 Deposition Item Type Metadata

County: Tipperary
Deposition Type: Bysse
Nature of Deposition: Robbery, Lost By Debts
Deposition Transcription:

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<symbol> Elizabeth Nelson late of Ballyglessin in the parish o f Templehenny & within in the County of Tipperary wife to Edward Nelson late of the same clerke, duely sworne & examined before vs by vertue of his Maiesties Comission beareing date at Dublin the 5th day of March last touching the losses and suffereings of the English and Brittish with in the Province of Munster &c deposeth and saith. That on or aboute the first of January last & since the begining of this presente rebellion in Ireland the said Edward Nelson lost was robbed and forceably dispoiled of his goods and Chattles to the seuerall values followeing vizt value of 333 li.
Of horses to the value of Thirteene pounds Of houshould stuffe lynnen woollen weareing apparell and plate to the value of one hundred & fiftie pounds. Of Corne in the haggard and house to the value of thirty pounds. of debts amounting to the summe of one hundred & twenty pounds due from seuerall persons whose names this deponent canot remember in regard the said Edward Nelsons bills bonds and other writeinges were taken away by the rebells wh ereby this deponents said husba n d by meanes of this rebellion can gett noe satisfaction from them. Of Bookes belongeing to the said Nelson to the value of forty pounds or therabouts. The totall of her said husbands losses in goods and Chattles to the va amounts to the sume of three hundred three & thirty pounds. besides the losse of the benefitt of his churchliueings vi zt the Prebendary of Ballyk ene in the dioces of lymerick & the viccaridges of Kilcash and Templeheny in the dioces of Waterford woorth Comunibus annis one hundred pounds per annum which is left to consideration. The deponent further saith that aboute the time aboue mencioned one of her said horses price ten pounds was taken away by Andrew Hogane of Seskin in the said County of Tipperary yeoman she likewise saith that the said Corne was then taken away by Richard Butler of Kilcash in the said County Esquire. This deponent further saith that

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vpon the second day of January last or theraboutes this deponent & her Two children John Nelson and <B> Constance Nelson were taken prisoners by the said Richard Butler whoe kepte them restrayned in Clonmell at one Alderman Pierce Bray his house till Midsumer last & then carryed from thence by Alexander Raggett one of the lord of Ikerins servants & by directions from his lordshipp to a place called Clanoure in the said County where this deponent and her said children were kepte in restainte till aboute the 24th of October followeing, dureing which time she sawe and obserued (among other their outragious actions) that they stripped Thomas Kilby viccar of St. John Baptist=Grang in the said County John Batchellor curat of Kilshillan in the said County his wife & fiue children Rose Caldwell of Clonmell aforesaid widdowe Margrett Shafty of the same wife to Randall Shafty of the same gentleman & diuers other English and protestants. she alsoe saith that And dureing her Imprisonment among them <C> she heard the said Bray and diuers others say, that if the Kinge of England had sent any directions to them they would lay downe their armes and neuer strike a stroke againste his Maiesty, she likewise heard the said Bray the said Alexander Bray Raggett then say that they had armes come into them from the Roman Catholickes in the the low=Countryes, & the said Bray likewise tould this deponent that the Emperour the Pope the King of ffranche and the Kinge of Spaine would send them helpe & mainteine them in this present quarrell. she lastly saith And saith that one Busher minister of Clonmell aforesaid being formerly a constant preacher came freely to Clonmell & voluntarily (as this deponent beleeueth) turned papist her cause of knowledge heerin is that she was presente when she heard the said Busher tell the Mayor of Clonmell aforesaid that he would goe to masse many yeers agoe but for feare of looseing of his Church liueings. she alsoe deposeth and saith that one Thomas Phillipp

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<D> formerly a protestant & one of his Maiesties garrisson souldiers at Clonmell aforesaid, since this rebellion turnd papist and makes powder [ ] for the enemy & mends the lockes of their peeces & musketts The deponent was she lastly saith that she was credibly informed that an English man whose name she knoweth not) his wife & three children comeing in the way from Golden=Castle in the said County towards the English quarters was apprehended by directions from the lord of Cahir & first they were all stripped & then hanged; she lastly saith that One George Power Of Clonmell shewed to this deponent a copie of a lettre sent by the popish clergy of this Kingdome to the Earle of Clanrickard wherby they threatned him for favoureing & sideing with the English that he should not onely be excomnica{t}ed by the Pope but that all the forces of Leinster and Munster would Joyne together and burne and spoile his Country, i f th th lik e wise th is deponent And aboute Easter last this deponent vnderstanding that the Castle of Rochestowne in the said County was deliuered vp to the enemy where there was many English and protestants were besiedged this deponent greeveing at the ill vsadge of the rebells to some of her acquaintance in the said Castle, (one father Thomas Gregory a dominican ffryer then present) this deponent askeing what they would doe with them that were in the said Castle, the said Gregory then made answere why to kill them all quoth he for they will neuer be ridd of them in this Kingdome till they take that course, for we haue an example in ffrance in the like for vntill the greate massacre there they could neuer be freed of the heretickes & further she deposeth not
Elizabeth Nelson
Jurat coram nobis
16o Decembris 1642

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The examination of
Elizabeth Nelson
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Deponent Fullname: Elizabeth Nelson
Deponent Gender: Female
Deponent Occupation: Wife
Deponent County of Residence: Tipperary
Mentioned Non-Deponent Fullnames: Edward Nelson, Andrew Hogane, Richard Butler, Pierce Bray, Alexander Raggett, lord of Cahir, Thomas Gregory, John Nelson, Constance Nelson, Thomas Kilby, John Batchellor, Rose Caldwell, Margrett Shafty, Randall Shafty, * Busher, lord of Ikerin, George Power, Earle of Clanrickard
Mentioned Non-Deponent Roles: Victim, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Apostate, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned