Deposition of William Timmes

Citation: TCD, 1641 Depositions Project, online transcript January 1970
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Date: 1646-03-05
Identifier: 821187r137

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County: Tipperary
Deposition Type: Dublin Original
Nature of Deposition: Apostacy, Assault, Captivity, Death, Killing, Multiple Killing, Robbery, Stripping, Words, Succour, Lost By Debts
Commissioners: Henry Brereton, Henry Jones, William Aldrich
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William Timmes late of Belraine in the Barronie of Owney & County of Tipperarie gentleman sworne and examined before his Maiesties Commissioners in that behalf authorized deposeth and sayth That about the xxixth of October 1641 this deponent then liveing with his wife & 3 children at Belraine aforesaid was informed by one Mr Woodhowse that then came vnto him from the towne of Birre in the Kinges Countie, That a Rebellion was begun about a weeke before that tyme in the province of Vlster: which, (the deponent (being affraide would spread over the kingdome) & intending to make endeare himself as much dea re as he could with his neighbors thereabouts: vizt with one Mr <A> John Kenedy of Downalley in the County of Tipperary Esq gentleman. Teige Mc Cony Rane of Capernane in the County of Limrick gentleman and Darby Rane his sonn John ô Mull Rane Esquire Cheef Lord of the Barrony of Owney in the same County, Darby Mc Hugh Rane of Garraine in the County of Tipperary gent and with divers of the gentry of that Cuntry: did quickly after the said Mr Woodhowses report aforesaid, acquaint those gent, what he had heard concerning the begun Rebellion in the north neuer thincking nor soe much as suspecting that those gentlemen or any in those parts would rise out in Rebellion alsoe, but resting confident both of their lojalties & integrities: And then this deponent proposing it vnto them howe necessary it was for thems and himself to contynue loyall subjects & to partake & hold fast together to defend the Cuntry against all such as should rise against his Maiestie & his liege people: And that it was alsoe necessary for them to be furnished with Armes & Amunition for that purpose. Itt was therevpon not only agreed by those said gentlemen before named and divers others of the Irish neighbors thereabouts on the one part, And this deponent and divers others of the English thereabout duelling
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on the other part That all and euery one of them should be and contynue true and lojall subiects to his Maiesty & all hold and partake together for the defence and good of the Cuntrie and of euery one of them in particular, And becauwse there was at that tyme a want both of Armes & Amunition, & especially of gunpowder amongst, them therefore this deponent by a generall consent amongst them was then sent & emplojed to goe to the Citty of Lymerick to provide gunpowder for them: (for in deed noe guns were to be hadd for money,) Nor were there scarse any in the Cuntry thereabouts. but what were in the possession of Sir Tho: Meredith knight, Captain John Hunt John Strongman Esquire & of him this deponent and some few others But before betwixt the tyme of his first notice of the Rebellion in the north, & the tyme of his said goeing for Limrick, the Rebellion breaking out alsoe in the Queens County & alsoe in the Barrony of Lower Ormond in the County of Tipperary: (where the English were wholly Robbed and spojled) & the Irish Papists growing stronger & stronger. Therefore that this deponent before his said goeing to Limrick which was on or about the 13th of November 1641 directed his wife That if in his absence she saw any danger apparant That she shold trust his goods with to and amongst the Irish gentlemen formerly herein named: whom he doubted not but would redeliver them vnto him or them vpon demand, and in the meane tyme would keepe them safely And therevpon this deponent goeing to Limrick bought about some [ 14 ] pounds gunpowder & had some bestowed on him from some English shipps & a dutch shipp that lay then in the harbour at Limrick & gott a little out of the Kings store in the Castle there: but could buy none in the Citty att all for none they would part with all att
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any rate whatsoeuer Howbeit all that hee could provide was not above 14 li. of powder to his now Remembrance: And on or about the 17th of the said month of November 1641 this deponent rideing homewards wase did in the way vizt about 2 myles from Limrick meete with a great number of the English workmen of his maiesties mynes Rojall of Knockanaderrick of the County of Tipperary whoe hadd been but the very day next before all robbed by this deponents said seemeing (but dis faigned & dissembling) frend, Mr John Kenedy, <A> aforenamed, whom having vpon his faire shews & protestacions trusted with their goodes, he having gotten them into his Castle together with the owners thereof the workmen, did quickly turne and expulce those workmen out of his Castle: Saying hee could keepe them noe Longer And for what clothes they hadd on their backs They were robbed & stript of them on their way. by such guids convoy & confederats as he the said John Kenedy sent along with them from his howse & others in the cuntrie And att the same tyme and place this deponent likewise mett divers of his owne Tenants vizt Thomas dobbs Richard Notts William Tomlinson Richard Lawrence and William Wills & seuerall others whoe the day next before hadd beene at their seuerall dwellings in the said Barrony of Owney & County of Tipperary stript and robbed of their goods & meanes by one John Mc William Grace <B> of Grang in lower Ormond & County of Tipperary gent, Marcus Grace eldest sonn of Phillip Grace of Teone in the same County gent, Maghoone ô Mara, & Connor ô Mara both brothers, whose mother Liveth at Lisbunny in the Barrony of Lower Ormond aforesaid, & by a great number of others, most of them name of the name & kinredd of the said Gracs & ô Maras, and b whose christen names this deponent is not able to expresse, which robbed people his said tenants & others, tendering this deponents safety, told him, what a great number of
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of papists were then lately risen vp in Armes and advised him to returne back, for otherwise he would surely be robbed and stript only & might alsoe be killed in the way. And withall told him that it was to noe purpose neither was it saffe for him to returne home: ffor there all those of the Irish whoe had vowed and seemed to be his frends. had gotten his goodes and then had discouered themselues to be his vtter enemyes: Notwithstanding which perswasion this deponent mynding to goe to his wife and children. & holding it impossible that there should be such falshood & sudden chang amongst his vowed frends & neighbors the Irish he passed on his way as fast as he could some 3 or 4 myles further vntill he mett with a great rowt and number of rude & Rebellious Irish that had comen and Martched thither out of the Territory of Thomond in the County of Clare, whoe having staves clubbs darts skeins and such like weapons did then and there assault, and endevour to apprehend him this deponent, whoe (to affright them & save himself) discharging a fowling peece which he had, over their heads, They giveing some way, he charged through them & gallopped to a wood nere hand & thorow it to the topp of a hill out of the way & some soe back againe to Limrick: from whence this deponent the next day sent an Irish boy with a Letter <A> directed to Darby Mulraine aforenamed and Margrett his wife thereby desireing them to bee carefull of his wife children and goodes: & then alsoe sent the said Margrett a gold ring the more to engage & endeare her to performance. Howbeit before that letter was either sent or deliuered This deponents said wife and servants on her behalf hadd deliuered vnto and left in trust with <B> the said Darby Mc Hugh Raine the possession of this deponents howses and tann howses & lands in Bellraine, with the howses and lands of him this deponent in Ballycane knockmoile & Gurtineknaby in the
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<in the> said County of Tipperary with a great quantety of lether howsholdgoods Cowes Mares horses & garrans worth CClxxx li. and above vpon his promisse to keepe them saffe for this deponents vse & to redeliver them vpon demand Neverthes he Whoe hath euer since kept the possession of all the same lands howses Tanhowse and stock which hath beene formerly worth vnto him this deponent C li. per annum: (fowre yeres proffitts being already lost Amounting to 400 li. ster at the least, And this deponents said wife and servants on her behalf left in the possession and comitted in vpon the like trust <A> to the custody of the said Teige Mc Cony Raine and his sonn Darby Rane soe many Cowes lynnen wearing apparell plate and other goods as were worth CCxx li. sterling together with divers evidencs writing and specialties of great value And they alsoe left in trust with the said John ô Mulraine, one trunck and a chest conteyning apparrell Carpetts curtens vallens pewter & other things worth xxx li. at least: And this deponent further saith that when the Rebellion began Thomas Pilkington Randall Bickford and Edward Hackled & divers others of the dispoiled & robbed English workmen of the silvermynes aforesaid stood, & yet are duly indebted to him this deponent in seuerall summes of money Amounting to Cxxj li. & above which the deponent is affrayd he shall loose, becawse the said John ô Kenedy deteineth their goods & meanes from them which they left with him in trust as aforesaid, & for that the said John ô Kenedie is a notorious Rebell: And he further saith That Murtogh mc Donnell <B> ô Brian of Cranall Crannogh in the County of Tipperary gent Esquire Murtogh Mc Knogher ô Brian Kenedy Brian Turlogh oge James Lumbard Laughlin Kelly Darby Dowdy William Meagh William Halle Murtogh Mc Knogher ô Brian Cardiff Richardson all dwelling within the Barrony of Duharrah & Lower Ormond in the County of Tipperary & whoe are all archRebells & knowne Robbers and spojlers of the English, were when the Rebellion began
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alsoe indebted to this deponent in seuerall Sumes Amounting to Threescore & tenn pownds ster or thereabouts: which this deponent (in respect of their Rebellion) maketh accompt that he shall loose And he alsoe further saith That his tenants Richard Natts Edward Hacklett William Tomlinson John Ryder William Ryder William Wills and Richard Lawrence, (all English protestants) were duly indebted to him this deponent in seuerall summs Amounting to xv fforty Pownds ster or thereabouts, which he is affraid hee shall loose, for that the Rebells Connor ô Brian of Knockananeene <A> Lord of the Barrony of Duharrah in the County of Tipperary Esquire & Darby Mulraine aforenamed being trusted with those his tenants goods and meanes, most perfidiously deteine them & are or have been absolutely in Rebellion by takeing vp Armes against his Maiesty & his loyall subiects robbing & spoiling of the English & protestants & surprising and takeing to themselues & the other Rebells out of the hands of his maiesties liege people divers Castles howses lands & goodes. And further saith That the said Rebell John ô Kenedy hath euer since the begining of the Rebellion in those parts vsurped & taken the proffitts of lands in Gurtmemaddah in lower Ormond which were morgaged for divers yeres in being to this deponent for 32 li. The proffitts whereof (being well worth iiij li. per Annum) the said John ô Kenedy hath received for the tyme aforesaid being above 4r yeres Amounting to xvj li. & above, Hee alsoe saith That William ô Kenedie of <B> BallyAnderton in the Barrony of vpper Ormond of gentleman & Dermott ô Kenedy his sonn (2 noted Rebells) have euer since the begining of the Rebellion in those parts forceibly vsurped the possession & taken the proffitts of certeine lands which they had lett to this deponent for a tyme yet in being in the Parrish of Kilmore in vpper ossory Ormond aforesaid to this deponents losse and damage of lx li. ster
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<A> ster: He alsoe sayth That one Turlogh oge ô Brian of Bellin in the Barrony of Owney aforesaid, hath euer since the begining of the Rebellion in those parts forceibly deprived this deponent of the possession Rents and proffitts of half a plow land called Island mc Turlogh in the County of Tipperary & parrish of killiscully worth x li. per Annum, amounting in 4 yeres past to 40 li. & the deponent is like to be deprived of, and loose the future proffits thereof vntill a peace bee established: And this deponent in the begining of the Rebellion in those parts hadd certeine of his horses Cowes & sheepe forceibly taken from him at Castlelogh & Knockmoyle in the County of Tipperary worth xxv li. By the Rebell Edmund ô MulRaine <B> of Ballyarragon in the same County gent, and by theldest sonne of one Peirce Butler of Lower Ormond (formerly a minister, but now Revolted to Masse) and some other Rebells whose names hee cannott now expresse: And further saith That the Irish boy before named, bec by whom this deponent sent the foremencioned letter and ring, delivering them both to the said Margrett ô MulRaine fownd this deponents wife and children there att the said Margretts howse, And in Answere to his this deponents letter the said Darby <C> ô Mulraine husband of the said Margrett Writt & returned a letter to this deponent to Limerick thereby intimateing That he had received into his Custody divers goods of this deponents which should be safely kept for his this deponents w vse and his wife & children should be kindly vsed And withall desireing this deponent to send & buy for them at Limrick 3 paire of boots vizt one pair for him the said Darby Another for his father in law Teige Raine & the third for Darby the said Teigs owne sonne, And withall wished this deponent (by any meanes) to come thither to his wife & children &
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& bring along thither with him such Armes and Amunition as he had procured at Limrick Promissing that he & his wife Children and goods should be in all safety amongst them, which Letter the deponent received: & therevpon soone after sent the 3 pair of boots downe vnto them, which cost 14 s. for euery paire: & sent alsoe a letter by another boy vnto both the said Darby & Teige ô MullRaine, thereby de s i reing them (in respect of the danger of the way) to send vnto him some men to guard him along: vpon which they sent him three Irish men: which bringing him some 3 myles on the way to a towne belonging to one of the Bourks, They the deponents guids & hee went there into a howse: ffrom whence; some of the Rebellious souldjers and servants of William Bourk lord Baron of Castle= <A> Connell (by the Comand of the said Lord Baron their Master (whoe was alsoe in that tyme towne at the same tyme) forceibly tooke and carried away this deponents horse that he rec rode vpon thither worth viij li. ster & then and there carried and deliuered him them with the saddle & bridle, to their said lord and Maister: whoe tooke him away by the like force & conuerted him to his owne vse, And then the deponent being thus deprived of his horse, & alsoe in great danger of his liffe, with what hast he could, retourned back to Limrick aforesaid: & sent the said darby and Teig word how he had bin vsed, wherevpon they writt againe vnto this deponent to Limerick. That if he would come to them with the Armes and Amunition he had gotten That then they would send him a saffe Convoy vizt one ffather William & ffather John (2 popish preists) whoe should not only saffely guard him to them But alsoe entertaine and receive him into their owne (as they calld it) Catholique Religion: which letter this deponent tooke in such highe disdaine, that euer after he resolved neither to come to them, nor trust them: which they perceiving then they very earnestly perswaded this deponents wife to come to Limrick to him, and to prevaile
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prevaile with him to returne vnto them with his Armes and Amunition & with all to become a Romane Catholique, & then he should have all his estate & meanes, & live quietly amongst them: & wh have what Comand he pleased amongst them the Irish vseing (as this deponents wife protested vnto him) more then ordinary promisses & faire shews to draw him & his Armes and Amunition thither: Howbeit (as it seemeth, becawse they would be sure to stripp this deponents wife of all that shee had. They perswaded her to goe in broages, and mantle like a meere Irish woman (for her more safety in the way) and to Leave all her clothes with them: which she more for feare, then by their perswasions consenting vnto she came away in a mantle & broages & soe filthily disguised that when he sawe her she hee scarcely knew her: But when she had acquainted him with their promisses and desires & that he returned them a Resolute Answere that he neither would be of their Religion come vnto them, nor trust them any more, then they stript this deponents children of their owne clothes, & sent them in raggs or poore Irish habitt vnto him and their mother at Limrick aforesaid: Whoe (soe dispoiled of meanes as aforesaid) had little or nothing left whereby to subsist & Live, & lesse ability to manteine soe great a charge: Howbeit this deponents having some acquaintance & frends in Limerick aforesaid resolved to stay there vntill either a peace should happen, or that some other good occasion of service & employment should be offered to call him thence, & soe stayd there accordingly from that tyme for a months space vntill the tyme that <A> one Mr Oliver Stephens then of in the Countie of Limrick Esquire & one Purcell of or neere Kilmallocke in the same County, & divers others of the Purcells gentlemen of good ranck whose christen names the deponent cannott now expresse, came out of the Cuntry to Limrick aforesaid And there and about that tyme which was about Candlemas 1641 publickly gave out That they were employed & sent thither by the right honorable Sir William Sentleger then lord
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Lord President of Munster to raise forcs for his Maiestie: for that the Lord President had a Resolucion ere long to give Battaile to the Irish Rebells, & therefore desired that all such in that Citty as would take vp Armes with the said Lord President on his Maiesties behalf would goe along with them for that purpose Wherevnto one Mr George Webb sonn to the late Reuerend Bishop of Bishop of Limerick (a yong valiant gentleman One mr Cole, & William Mince (all three stout valiant men) giveing creditt went along with them: & were by those false & cuning seducers & vaine pretenders of lojaltie to his matie, soe drawne out of the Towne & carried away amongst the Rebells & by them kept in prison & often in great danger to bee murthered vntill it pleased god to afford them a way by which they escaped, which soe inflamed & inraged them against the said Oliver StephensPurcell & all the rest of the Rebells that in seuerall skirmishes and Battailes afterwards they shewed more then ordinary resolucion & l & did very great service against them: Howbeit this deponent suspecting the said Stephens, Purcell, and the rest, (as divers other protestants alsoe did) he denied to goe along with them And hee would have diswaded the rest from goeing with them if then he could, but that they went away vpon a sudden: Howbeit afterwards (becawse this deponent had beene much imployed in the Silvermynes & had skill in such like busines, & becawse the said Stephens could not by his former plott draw him out of Dublin Limrick hee the said Stephens about a fortnight after employed & sent to Limrick seuerall desperate & Rebellious Irish men with direction. That they should either by force or subtill wyles draw this deponent to the waterside, & soe Convey him away to him the said Stephens in the Cuntry in and by Cotts which then and there were provided for that purpose Wherevpon those rude Rebells comeing to this deponent in Limrick aforesaid in the open streete & belike thincking that they could by noe faire sleight
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gett this deponent neere their Cotts did then and there suddenly surprise and closse Catch in the Armes of twoe of them the person of this deponent and endeavored to carry or dragg him to their Cotts but he strugling with t and fighting with them for his liberty, was at length rescued and taken from them by some of the Citty, whoe asking them why and by warrant they soe vsed him one of them answered that they had a warrant to arrest him vpon an action of 100 li. Then they being asked why then they did not carry him towards the prison but a contrary way, they then and there readily answered, That they carried him that way for feare hee should be rescued from them: And therevpon the deponent being carried to the hall of the prison, a sight was demanded of their pretended warrant, But they haveing none, shrunck away one after another & left forthwith went to the then Maior of the Citty <A> Mr Dominick ffanning by name: whome (being a papist) they informed That this deponent was an vsefull man for their purpose of makeing of gunpowder & for other Arts & thinges necessary for their warr (as this deponent was informed, which information some of this deponents frends overhearing & considering the Maiors inclynation to syde with them & to partake with them in their designes, came suddenly to this deponent, (whoe was then but newly Removed to the howse of one James Hackett an Apothecary) & privately told him That vnles he should privately & that presently be gone, he was confident that he should quickly be stayd & abused by some Comand from the Maior. Wherevpon the deponent secretly and suddenly fled to the Castle: Where he remained as a volunteere for defence of that Castle from that tyme vntill about Midsomer
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then next following: which Castle being for about seven weekes besieged Cheefly by the Rebell, generall Barry of Barryscuntry <A> & by the said Maior, Mr ffanning (whoe treacherously & contrary to the myndes of many in the Citty lett [ ] the said generall Barrie & his Army into the same Citty) & by the saidStephens & Purcell before named, & by one Sergeant Maior mc Nemarrae Bourke of the County of Clare kinsman to the Erle of Thomand, & divers other papisticall Rebells, whose names he cannott now call to mynd; There died of English and others protestants within the same Castle, within the tyme & by occasion & straitnes of the Seige & by want of necessaries about three hundred persons by 14 15 or 16 euery in a night soe as they were forced to bury them by t 8 or more of them together in one grave: which together with their wants amongst the liveing & a contynued mortalitie pestered, and weakened the survivors soe. That about Midsomer aforesaid they were inforced to surrender it, to the said Rebells, and yet not before such tyme as the beseegers had driven many works & mynes vnder the very walls of the said Castle, which had ouerthrowne some part of the same walls, And not alsoe neither vntill this deponent & the rest beseeged had Countermyned them in seuerall placs & had taken 2 of their mynes from them and had seazed on 2 of their peecs of ordinance which they notwithstanding were not able to take away away In which Countermynes, one of the beseeged souldjers by name Mr William Manwaring was slaine Mr Holmes hurt & Mr John Powell alsoe Hurt (whoe lay long lame,) And yet such was the assistance of god that in one of those countermynes which this deponent and the rest drave against the enemy there were killed one father White a notable preist or frier, and about seven or viiijt more of the Rebells: In and about which execucion this deponent was almost choaked & smothered with the very powder of the pistolls that he discharged against them: Howbeit soe many, and strong, were the Assailants & their forces soe often renned: & soe weake were the
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w ere the walls and the Amunition and strength of the Assayled soe poore that they were necessitated to yeild it as aforesaid vpon Quarter to part away with bagg & baggage: but to leave all their Armes and Amunition which they did to the said Rebells, And then this deponent and as many more as pelased, were convoyed by water to Corke by Captain Constable an English man, (whoe long endeavored & stayd in that River to releev{e} the Castle, but could not: Howbeit in his Attempts to releeve it his shipp was received seuerall shotts through and throughe, and Lost its maine Anckor, & endured much losse & danger besides And this deponent and the rest being brought to Corke aforesaid: he for his part there stayd and tooke vpp Armes, and served vnder the Comand of Captain William Courtney knight as a trooper vntill after the first Cessation of Armes In and during the tyme of which his service within the County of Corke, he observed and knew theis parties hereafter mencioned to be notorious Rebells & to take vp Arms and manteine open warr against the Kings Maiesty & to robb & slay divers of his Leige people vizt the said Lord Generall Barry for the province <A> of Munster the said Oliver Stephens, the said Purcell, who was lieutenants generall the said Dominick Fanning Maior of Limerick, The Lord Baron of Castle Connell, Captain John Coydon of Cloghley in the County of Corke Swilevan Beare of in the County of Kerry a great Comander of Rebells, the Erle of Castlehaven <B> John ô Kenedy of Downally in the County of Tipperary before named, Hugh ô Kenedy his Brother Captain Teige Kenedy another of his brothers both of the County of Tipperary John Grace ffizwilliam of the Grange aforenamed John ô Mulraine lord of Owney alsoe before named, Teige Mc Coney Raine of Cappernaine aforesaid Darby <C> Mc Hugh Raine aforesaid Murtogh Mc Donnell ô Brian Turloghe ô Brian aforesaid Garrett Grace of Kilboye in the Barronie of VpperOrmond & County of Tipperary gentleman, Connor ô Mearac aforesaid and divers others whose names he cannott now calle to mynd; And this Deponent further saith, as to murthers and Cruelties Comitted by the Rebells he sayth That
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That in or about the moneth of May 1643 one John Vstisonn alias Duffe Parrish Clark to Mr Bartlett Cho of Killisculley in the County of Tipperary was nere vnto the silvermynes vpon the lands of the said Garrett Grace: knocked in the head with stones <A> downe to the grownd, and afterwards hanged vpp in a Bush by a cruell Rebell whose name he knoweth not, But hath beene credibly informed, & soe is very confident that that murtherer was a Retainer to the said Garrett Grace, The said deponent was shewed the same man that did the fact, whome the said Garrett Garret Grace for the present Casheered for a colour or seemeing zeale to Justice, but afterwards entertained and harboured againe in his howse, where the deponent alsoe sawe and afterwards spake with the said Malefactor
Hee further sayth That although this deponent came from his habitacion to Limrick in manner as is aforesaid herein formerly expressed, And although Divers others alsoe Came & fled from the Siluermynes to Limrick alsoe yet were there divers others of the English That went from the silver mynes for refuge to a Castle belonging to Sir Tho: Meredith Knighte called Ballycahell twoe miles from the mynes, and alsoe carried their goods thither, Where (after they had contynued for a few weekes, the said John Kenedy and others of the papists perswaded them to yeild vp that Castle, and goe and live at the mynes againe and to work there, Promissing that none should hurt or pillidg them of any thing wherevpon those poore credulous people returned with their wives Children goods & families to the mynes aforesaid But they <B:> had not long contynued there: But that one Hughe Kenedie brother to the said John Kenedy John Glisson of Kilmore in the same County of Tipperary gent Rory ô Kenedy another brother to the said John ô Kenedy Turlogh Bane servant to the said John ô Kenedie Donnell ô Glisson of Gourtraheine, called great Donnell John ô Kenedy of Ballicahell in the same County gentleman, & 2 or 3 more of the names of the Kenedies whose Chrissen names he cannott expresse Hugh ô Coghie An Attendant & servant to the said John ô Kenedy of Downalley (in a most cunning
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& bloody villaine) being all Armed some with pistolls others with skeines hatchetts swords & other weapons, came all togethr on a sabbath day about Candlemas 1641 suddenly & Rebelliously into the refyneing howse of the said mynes of Knockanaderrick And then & there in seuerall Roomes of the same, and in placs nere the same did assault and sett vpon the said English persons, and stripping some of them naked they then and there with their said weapons did most miserably and mortally slash cutt knock in the heades & wound them that they then and there died, There being then and there such a great lowd and dangerous storme of thunder lightening raine wynd and tempestious weather That those in the 2d 3d or other roomes of the howse could not (as was credibly reported heare the cryes or noise of the slaine people in the first next or any other roome but where themselues were: & the yet the same tempest (the vehemency whereof was such as was the like was not before observed) could not nor did soe deterr or amate those bloudy murtherers to desist or forbeare vntill they had then and there butchered and absolutely putt to death theis protestants following vizt John Brock and his wife, and his sonne & daughters Robert weat son Watts the father, Robert Watts his sonn & his sister Francis White, his wife and 2 sonns George Kelly and his wiffe Robert Langley and his wiffe Christofer Howard, John the miller the wife of one Thomas Ladeley (whoe hadd about, and the wife of one Tho: Clarke (whoe was great with child & her sonne, <A> which child (being yong) did the said Hugh ô Kenedy take by the heeles & dashed out his Braines against the stones: Presently after the Murther aforesaid the one Margrett the wife of one Phillip ô Kenedy of Cooleene in the same County of Tipperary gent, & Margrett the wife of the said great Donnell Glisson: and the wife of the said Rory Kenedy (one of the murtherers) with some other yeomen belonging to the murtherers came and stripped naked all the rest of those murthered persons & layd
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& laid, and left their bodies in a most imodest & vndecent posture & soe left them vnburied Where they lay in that order till the next day & then they were buried in a watry ditch all in a hole, saving twoe of them, whoe were soe slightly buried in a medow ner another ditch that the doggs scrapeing many the one of them vpp seuerall tymes fedd vpon her Carcasse & devowred her flesh: And further saith That that one Tho: Galopp and his wife & Tho: Ladeley (3 English protestants) were alsoe att the refyneing howse aforesaid & in another place nere the same att the tyme & by the barbarous Rebells last named woundeded in many seuerall placs & then left for dead (all stript stark naked) & especially the said Tho: Ladeley hadd 36 or 37 wounds & yet escaped with his liffe by the good help & succour & of Sir Alexander Hamilton knight: & the honorable Sir Georg Hambletons Lady sister to the now most honorable James lord Marquesse of Ormond Lo: Lieutenant generall of Ireland, & soe did the said Tho Galopp, & And his wife (though cured & recouered by the said honorable Lady) yet being after stript naked as she went towards Limerick by other Rebells, quicklie after died: And this deponent further saith That after the first Cessation of Armes proclaimed vizt in October 1643 hee this deponent comeing from Cork towards the said Sir George Hamiltons howse. (whither he had sent his wife and children before him) He stayd there fr and at the Silvermynes vntill about the 19th of January now last 1645 But saith That to his now best Remembrance) about the xxvth of March 1644 he this deponent being at the Silvermynes aforesaid observed That there came some direction from the supreame Rebellious Councell at Kilkenny vnto the said John ô Kenedy Kenedie of Downally to apprehend and bring in before th into prison the persons of all those that Comitted the murthers aforesaid att the said Silvermynes: Wherevpon the said John Kenedy did apprehend
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apprehend and carry to prison all the knowne murtherers (saveing his brother Hughe, whoe had before that time drowned himself) and the said Hugh ô Coghy whoe was servant to himself the said John Kenedy: which said Coghy (whether to prevent some confession and discouery of his of his sayd Masters wicked Acts, or to preseve him the said Coghy for the acting of more mischeefe, the deponent cannott tell, hee the said John Kenedy his Master, would not, nor did apprehend, but rather sent or suffered him to goe away & stay till the danger was passed over, amongst a wicked Company of Preists or friers But whenas the other parties soe apprehended and imprisoned for the fowle murther aforesaid had bin imprisoned for some tyme and sleightly questioned for the fact, Then they were either suffered to escape, or sett att liberty, and soe came home againe, And then the said Coghy returned alsoe home vnto his said Masters howse, where hee was againe entertained and harboured & att as formerly, served and attended his said Master & soe for any thing the deponent knoweth to the Contrary, he doth still, without being questioned for his wicked Actes: And this deponent further alsoe confesseth and saith. That whilest he remained at Limerick aforesaid vizt about tenn daies after Ester 1642 1642 The said Mr Fanning (whoe was Maior of Limrick) and other the papists of that Cittie Robbed and pilladged the protestants in the Cittie, and contynued their pillageing, soe as they spared few protestants Noe not soe much as the protestant Aldermen of the Cittie <A> The said Maior Fanning & the rest of those Robbers then and there most boldly & wickedly saying That what they did then doe
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they did by Comission from his Maiesty: & said alsoe that they tooke the said Castle of Limerick from the protestants by the like Comission from his Maiesty & promised to shew the same Comission <symbol> to Ambrose Jones Deane Chaunter of Limrick & to one Mr Robert Lillyes when they went of out of the Castle of Limerick to Parly with them: but never produced, nor could produce any such Comission as this deponent is verily perswaded: for this deponent hath heard many of them confesse at other tymes that althoughe they pretended & gave out that they had such a Comission amongst them yet they never sawe any such, nor knew none any that had any such Further he sayth That about Candlemas 1644 when this deponent was at the Silvermynes aforesaid, another great thundering and lightenening happened thereabouts yet farr lesse then that which happened at the Massacre there, Att the tyme of which second thundering The west gable end of the said John Kenedies strong Castle of Downally aforesaid was struck quite thorow & soe was the maine beame of the floare that lay vnder that roofe either with a thunderbolt or what els pleased god: And the same then and there killd one woman (a papist) and hurt two or three women more: And at the same tyme a great Rock which laye very nere that Castle gate which struck & [cleft in sunder], Soe was struck removed and carried away into a glynn or valley neere adioyneing to the great Admiration of all the beholders But whether those strong thinges did any way deterr or strike any terror into the heart of the said John Kenedie or noe he did not expresse either by words or any outward gesture which the deponent could observe: And as to other murthers and cruelties Comitted & exercised in the seuerall Counties & y before named & in other parts of the province of Munster, where the deponent since the begining of the Rebellion hath resided, Although this deponent hath heard of many cruell ones: in seuerall places, and is very Confident that such were Comitted & perpetrated by a great number of Prot Papists vpon the persons of manie protestants
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protestants the Kinges leig people and loyall subiects: yet he sawe none of them with his owne eyes but leaveth them to bee expressed by others: [ ]th But they his former declaration herein of the murthers robberyes robberies & cruelties which he hath herein particularly mencioned: which hee averreth to be committed & perpertrated in such manner as aforesaid: Lastly And this deponent saith That his whole knowne losses by meanes and occasion of the said Rebelljon doe amont vnto the summ of one thowsand two hundred & nynty Powndes ster & above Beside the apparell of himself his wife & children & divers of his deedes evidencs Bonds specialties & writings & the future proffitts & benefite of his Landes farmes meanes & imployments formerly worth vnto him the summ of ffyfty Powndes per anum which he is lyke to loose & be deprived of, vntill a peace be setled, Lastly this deponent saith That in Somer last 1645 The <A> Rebellious Erle of Castlehaven and his Army did beseige surprize and forceibly take from divers eminent Protestants Lords knights & gentlemen within the province of Mounster Vlster divers brave and strong Castles forts howses and townes and in particular The Castle and towne of Caperquin belonging to the Erle of Cork The brave Castle towne & freescoole of Lismore. The towne of Tallow: The Castle of Mowgeely, Michellstowne and Castle where they hanged the minister thereof The Castle & towne of Donaraile The towne & Castle of Malowe Castle Lyons, Kilmacoo Cast{le} The Castle of Liscarroll. all of All of them Being almost of inestimable value Besides divers other Castles townes holds & faire howses All which they pillaged wasted & much defaced & divers of them they have burned downe to the ground: Since which tyme it is credibly reported that the said Erle of Castlehaven is turned friere
1213 li.-4 s. present losse
114 li. per annum
William Tymme{s?}
Jur vjto Marcij 1645 coram
Hen: Clogher. Will: Aldrich
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Deponent Fullname: William Timmes
Deponent Gender: Male
Deponent Occupation: Gentleman
Deponent County of Residence: Tipperary
Mentioned Non-Deponent Fullnames: Mr Woodhowse, John Kenedy, Teige Mc Cony Rane, Darby Rane, Darby Mc Hugh Rane, Rane, John Mc William Grace, Marcus Grace, Maghoone , Connor , * Gracs, * , Connor , William , Dermott , Turlogh oge , Edmund , William Bourk, George Webb, mr Cole, William Mince, Dominick ffanning, generall Barry, Sergeant Maior mc Nemarrae, Erle of Thomand, father White, Lord Baron of Castle Connell, John Coydon, Swilevan Beare, Erle of Castlehaven, Hugh , Teige Kenedy, Garrett Grace, Connor , John Glisson, Rory , Turlogh Bane, Donnell , John , * Kenedie, Hugh , Margrett , Margrett Glisson, Tho: Meredith, John Hunt, John Strongman, Phillip Grace, Peirce Butler, Margrett , ffather William, ffather John, Oliver Stephens, * Purcell, William Sentleger, James Hackett, Captain Constable, William Courtney, Thomas Ladeley, Tho: Clarke, Phillip , James lord Marquesse of Ormond, George Hamilton, Ambrose Jones, Robert Lillyes, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Pilkington, Randall Bickford, Edward Hackled, Murtogh mc Donnell , Kenedy, Brian Turlogh oge James Lumbard, Laughlin Kelly, Darby Dowdy, William Meagh, William Halle, Murtogh Mc Knogher , Cardiff Richardson, John Ryder, William Ryder, Thomas dobbs, Richard Notts, William Tomlinson, Richard Lawrence, William Wills, William Manwaring, Mr Holmes, John Powell, John Vstisonn, John Brock, Robert Watts, Robert Watts, Francis White, George Kelly, Robert Langley, Christofer Howard, John the miller, Tho: Galopp, Tho: Ladeley, Mr Bartlett
Mentioned Non-Deponent Roles: Witness, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Victim, Victim, Victim, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Victim, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Succour, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Mentioned