Deposition of John Abraham & others

Collection: Bysse Depositions

Citation: TCD, 1641 Depositions Project, online transcript January 1970
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Dublin Core

Date: 1643-06-14
Identifier: 828211r300


1641 Deposition Item Type Metadata

County: Cork & Kerry
Deposition Type: Bysse
Nature of Deposition: Apostacy, Assault, Death, Multiple Killing, Robbery, Stripping, Words
Commissioners: Philip Bisse, Thomas Elwell
Deposition Transcription:

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John Abraham Late of Pottally parish of Ballymakellegott Barron{ey} of Trehonackne & within the com of keiry schoolemaster & c. Josias White Late of the towne Ballinaka towne & parish of Balleishedah barony of Trehonackney & within the com of keiry weauer &
Nicholas Roberts Late of the Towne & parish of Ballymakellegott barony of Trehonackne & within the Com of keiry husbandman & (a brittish protestants duely sworne & examined before vs by vertue of his Maiestys Commission & c. depose & say that
This deponent saith that about the middle of december 1641 Nicholas Roberts aboue said he & his wife & two children were forst to goe to <A> a Castle caled Ballycarty about two miles from Tralee and aboute three hundred of men women & children with them & were there from the tyme aboue mencioned vntill the twenteth day of Nouember 1642 & were neuer beseidged by any of the rebells but the Castle was yelded vpp by the constable of the said Castle being a freholder of the said castle under Sir Edward Denny knight one Mr Robert Blenar Hassett of the saide Caste of Ballycarty Esquire and yeilded it vpp without the Consent of any of the three aboue named warders of the same or any other to their knowledge being deliuered to Collonell donnell Og mcCarty dwelling nere to Killarny barony of Magunny & within the com of Keiry Esquire gentleman fflorence mc Carty of the Palace barony of Mag{ony} and within the said com Gouernor of Keiry Esquire Captain O Sulivan Moore of Dunkerin in the said barony & within the said com Esquire who were acompanied with some threscore horses well armed & some twen{ty} foote Also he sayth that while they kept the Castle The Constables son called John Blener Hasset of the said Castle being Captain of the same being Captain <of 50ty men by the said Presidents appointed & Prouost marshall in the Com> wold not suffer the warders nor the rest of the of the sayde Castle to goe forth to fetch by way of prey any releif but were fayne to stay within haueing comand from the said Captain not to take any thinge from the rebbells but were in great want starued most of them & There dyed an all aboute forty men woemen & Children the y { als}o say that when some of the ward of the Castle had tak ’ n some pikes & skeins from the Re b bells that there upon the said Capt. John caus’d the said { } back ag en to the rebbells & threatn ed some of the m viz: Nicholas Roberts that if euer they tooke away any thing from the said reb b ell s agen { } that when some of the ward of Ballycarty light’d on a horse load of pikes with out Iron heads during the time of the se { } { } & tooke them away from the rebbells, & thru the said Captain John hasset caused the said piks all saue tow to be restored all ag[ ] Also they sayth that one John Abram { } a sonn in the said ward John Abram the yonger { } <5to of Aprill> went forth to ward Traley Castle the rebles & they tooke him & { }him

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they also say that the said Castle was yeilded vp by the said Robert about the latter end of Nouember Last 1642 and from Tralee they were put out all of the Castle int o the Bawne with but the [ ] and the Irish ward put in./ & those whome the enemy fauoured were put within the Bawne He they also sayth that about New years tyde Last 1642 there went forth from the said Castle of Ballycarty eight nyne men & one woman which Lost theire Liues goeing to an English Castle caled Newmarkett & there <B> ware taken by the rebblesells the names of the said partyes were these: John Ellis nere Stradbally bar of MaGuinney in said Com gentleman & his son Tho: Ellis Thomas Godwin of the Currans in the bar: of Trehonakney Taylour John alias Williams Jones Jones of Killinternagh in said bar husbandman Andrew Morgan of the Currans aforesaid butcher & his son William Morgan James Mc Garret of Ballycarty aforesaid husbandman Johnames Prossex of Kilarney Mason Robert Ingleden of Killarney aforesaid Butcher & Elizabeth Dashwood of Traley, wife to William Dashwood shoomaker, who as was reported, was thrash’d to death but among these one Robert Ingleden tyring vpon the mountayne behind the rest of his company was brought back by six of the rebbells to the said Castle of Ballycarty, who being brought there, Mrs Hanniball Hasset, wife to Captain Edw: Hasset being there, began to complayne to her father in law Robert Blener Hasset aforesaid of the cruelty of the Enemy towards the rest, and beseeching him very earnestly to take some course to saue the said Robert, but his answer was; he is a con stealing rogue and let them doe with him ev’n what they will & vpon that the rebells carryed him about a mile from the place & murdred him most cruely They also say that the cause why these persons fled out of the Castle after it was thus yeilded vp, was in that they were dayly threatned by the Irish ward there; so that they stood in danger of their liues, being accused for stealing of Cattle from the enemy, for their releife before the Castle was yeilded up althoughe Mr Robert Hasset told them all the English of the Castle, that he had gott’n quarter for them all for life & goods & a conuoy to be conuoyed ouer to the next English Garrison in the Com of Corke; allthough it afterwards appeared to the contrary that there was no such matter; for that the said Robert Hasset, confessed to one of these deponents, Nicholas <C> Roberts, & others, that the truth was that he had made with no quarter at all, but referred him & all the English ward to Mr fflorence mc Cartyes owne breast. They also say that without any consent or fore knowledge of any of the warders, when the castle was to be yeilded vp the said Robert Hasset calld vp vnto him all the warders, and caused them all to be disarmed, of those arms, who were of their owne proper goods, and so they were delivered up to the Irish ward, himselfe being permitted to liue within the Castle among the Irish. They also say that before about the tim e of the seidge of Treley they saw two or three Of the Irish Gentleman of Glanororte whose na mes they knoweth not, being of mac finans Company being Rebbells permitted to come into the Castle within the Grate in the Company of Captain John Blener-Hasset and there did eate & drinck in the little Buttry with their arms, as swords & skeins: where liu’d Robert Hasset also they say that in Captain John Hassets house that was scituate within the Bawne of the said Castle, they haue oft’n serue diuers of the prime Rebbells of that freqe country to come in and out, & eate & out drinck & be merry; also fflorence mc Carty about the latter end of August last Came to Captain John Hassets house within the said Bawne and Lay there one night & so went away agen next morning, the said fflorence being then a prime man at the seidge of Traley the said Capt: John Hasset was oft’n seene to parley withe diuers of Traley the rebbells, & letters passt too & fro betwixt them. they also say that they the warders of Bally Carty Castle with the rest might & would often haue releiued Traley Castle when they were beseidged and oft’n propounded the designe to the said Captain John; but he neuer would consent that they should fall upon the designe . they also say that John Abraham the elder one of these deponents, and the aboue said Josias White with his wife & two children, and one Richard Pages wife of Traley gardner, Mary the wife of John Boyce of Boye & Potally Tullygarran in the parish of BallymcEllegot husbandman were all stript by the rebbells. They also & they also say that John McThomas ffitz Gerald []late of Traley taylour & Anne his wife Gibbon Sapple of Treley taylour & James O Coner of the Kerryes in the parish of Treley gentleman Garret More of Treley gentleman Richard Bigford of the Kerryes aforesaid husbandman Mrs also the wife of the second son of Patrick McKelliston of Treley gentleman John Peirce of Treley Atturney formerly reputed Protestants & since this rebellion turn’d Papists, also one Mr Chafe of Lyxnay gentleman & his wife ffrances and one called Mr Williams of the same gentleman William Jones of the Currans husbandman Tho: Morgan of the same husbandman George Murrone of the Disert husbandman Walter Patrick Kerby of nere Stradbally husbandman & his two sons Richard & William Kerby Peter Brian of Treley miller & his wife John McAwliffe of the same miller, also Anne & Elizabeth Reeus daughters to Mrs Reeus of Carnefeild nere Potally wid: Katharine Conway of Kilorgan nere Castlemayne wid: also Mrs Trauers of Killallin nere Currans wid: Arthur White of Ballyfinoge husbandman these & the former reputed protestants herrtofore, but since not only turn’d papists {} {l}iue among the rebbells & do dutyes & seruices for them. Lastly they say that Lawrence {} to whome that [ ] life[ ] {} all go at the market Crosse of Traley on the 14th of ffebr: Last was tweluemonth, being before {} for life by Captain Dermod O Dingle & his company; a 3d person that was of the ward was as { } a black man of Glanrorte being shot, ran to the Castle of Traley & therewith dyed a 4th being Ca{} {} Marwood, he being tak’n after a while made an Escape to the Castle of Bally Carty & further they c{annot say}

Josias [mark] White
John Abraham
Nicho: [mark] Roberts m{arke}
{cor}am nobis 14th Jun: 1643
{Phil: B}isse
Thomas Ellwell

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Nicholas Roberts Late of the Towne & parish of Ballycarty barony of Trahonackne & within

John Abraham Josi
as White Nicho:
Roberts Examination
A Copie onely

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Deponent Fullname: John Abraham, Josias White, Nicholas Roberts
Deponent Gender: Male, Male, Male
Deponent Occupation: Schoolmaster, Weaver, Husbandman
Deponent County of Residence: Kerry,
Mentioned Non-Deponent Fullnames: Robert Blenar Hassett, Edward Denny, donnell Og mcCarty, fflorence mc Carty, Captain O Sulivan Moore, John Blener Hasset, John Abram, John the younger Abram, John Ellis, Tho: Ellis, Thomas Godwin, John Williams, Andrew Morgan, William Morgan, James Mc Garret, John Prossex, Robert Ingleden, Elizabeth Dashwood, William Dashwood, Hanniball Hasset, Edw: Hasset, * mac finans, John the elder Abraham, Mary *, Richard Page, John Boyce, John McThomas ffitz Gerald, Anne *, Gibbon Sapple, James O Coner, Garret More, Richard Bigford, Patrick McKelliston, John Peirce, Mr Chafe, ffrance *, Mr Williams, William Jones, Tho: Morgan, George Murrone, Walter Kerby, Richard *, William Kerby, Peter Brian, John McAwliffe, Anne *, Elizabeth Reeus, Katharine Conway, Mrs Trauers, Arthur White, Mrs Reeus, Dermod O Dingle, * Marwood,
Mentioned Non-Deponent Roles: Denounced, Mentioned, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Denounced, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Succour, Mentioned, Rebel, Victim, Victim, Mentioned, Mentioned, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Apostate, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned