Examination of Gibbon fforestall

Citation: TCD, 1641 Depositions Project, online transcript January 1970
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Date: 1652-08-18
Identifier: 812253r214

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1641 Deposition Item Type Metadata

County: Carlow & Killkenny
Deposition Type: Commonwealth
Nature of Deposition: Multiple Killing
Commissioners: Henry Jones, John Farrer
Deposition Transcription:


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<A> The Examinacion of Gibbon fforestall of Bramblestowne in Com Kilkeny yeoman aged 80 years or thereabouts taken befor vs the 18th of August 1652
This examinant saith that he was sometymes baily & lived with James Butler of Tinihench since he was a boy till within 2 or 3 years agoe, & that Garratt fforestall, Dermott o Dogheda, Garrat mc Cody, Richard mc Cody now of the Graige, William mc Cody now likwise of the Graige & Donogh Bane with others who{se} names he remembreth not were alsoe his servants at the begining of the warrs.
Being demaunded what gentlemen vsed to frequent the howse of James Butler he saith Walter Bagnall with his wife & his brother & Ambrose Plunkett [ ] together with the said did often tymes resort thither & would stay for some tyme & when she was not ther would send for provision from home thence thither and that shee came thither presently after the defeat of Mallamast alias Kilrush & stayed ther about a quarter of a year & that her husband would frequently visitt her, the cause of his knowledge is, that he was servant in the said howse.
Being demaunded what English he did know inhabiting in the towne of Graige he saith he knew John Stone & his wife, his sonne William Stone, & others whose names he cannot <B> remember, being asked what became of them he saith that Garratt mc Cody & a servant of Henry Bagnall brother to the said Walter whose name he remembreth not went to a shipp wher the William Stone was working nere the Rore & brought him from thence & hanged him nere Tinihinich in the place called Carrigladd & that the said Henry & his brother Walter Bagnall was then in the his Masters howse att Tinihench, but his Master was then att Waterford, & that he was gone 2 dayes befor the said execucion, & came home the day after, & saith that the said Henry Bagnalls man came into the howse after the said Stone was hanged, being asked by what order the said Stone was executed, he saith that he heard that it was by Collonell Bagnall his order; & saith that his Master after his returne hearing of the death of the said William Stone he was very angry & turn both with the said Bagnall & turned [ away ] such of his owne servants as he suspected to haue a hand in the said murther vizt Garratt fforestall & Garratt mc Cody, out of his house;
Being further demannded whither any came to sollicite to saue the life of the said William Stone, he saith that he saw one Henry Benne{tt} of Rosse come riding to the Castle, who came purposely as {he} heard to saue the said Stone, but whither the said Stone w{as} dead befor or not he cannot certaynly tell: and further h{e saith} that ther was an Englishman a Carpenter who wrought in { } howse taken away & likewise executed, by them that han{ged} Stone, & by the same order as he heard.
Being demaunded what became of John Stone, his wife & ot{her} English in Graige, he saith he heard they were driven out {of?} the towne & murthered about Poolmountan but by whom { } more then by a company the company & aforesaid with other loose persons & by the same orders he knoweth not


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Being demaunded if he knew one William Lilly an Englishman he saith he did; & heard that the said Lilly had formerly served <C> Walter Bagnall, & that presently after the battle att Rosse his he was taken & hanged nere Graige bridge & saith that his Mr James Butler, Collonell Bagnall & divers other gent were then in Tinihinich att the tyme when the said Lilly was executed; but by whose order he knoweth not
Being further demaunded what he knoweth concerning the death of Walter Sharlow & Joseph Valentine, he saith he did know noe such men: Being further examined concerning the premisses he confesseth that he was ther, but that it was present when they were hanged, but it was John Baron the eldest sonne of Richard Baron alias ffittzgerrald that han of Clenkin that hanged them:
<D> Being agayne demaunded by whose orders they were putt to death he aanswered that he had diuers tymes formerly said that it was Walter Bagnalls orders:
his marke
Gibbon [mark] fforestall
Taken befor vs the day & year within written
Hen: Jones
Jo: ffarrer


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The Examinacion of Gibbon
Forestall Com Kilkenny
Aug 18 1652
John Stone etc
William Stone
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Deponent Fullname: Gibbon fforestall
Deponent Gender: Male
Deponent Occupation: Yeoman
Deponent County of Residence: Kilkenny
Mentioned Non-Deponent Fullnames: James Butler, Dermott o Dogheda, Garrat mc Cody, Richard mc Cody, William mc Cody, Donogh Bane, James Butler, Walter Bagnall, Ambrose Plunkett, Henry Bagnall, Henry Benne{tt}, John Stone, William Stone, William Lilly, Walter Sharlow, Joseph Valentine, Garratt mc Cody, Garratt fforestall, John Baron, Richard alias ffittzgerrald Baron
Mentioned Non-Deponent Roles: Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Mentioned