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Henry Parry of the Citty of Dublin gent (formerly examined vpon oath before vs his maiesties Commissioners) doth now in Addition to his former examinacion, further depose & saye That in or about the month of June next before the Rebellion in this kingdome first broke out, being in the yeare 1641 he this deponent being then at London repaired vnto the Erle Rivers howse within that Citty where then then Lord Embassador of Spaine then <A> Lyved to visitt there one Mr John Parry a frier (being his this deponents Cozen germaine, whoe lived in the same howse, & was (as this deponent was informed) one of the said Embassadors Chapleins: where the deponent (enquireing for him) was directed to him in the said Embassadors private garden & then and there fownd him the said frier walking alone: By which occasion they haveing opportunity of discourse about seuerall busines The said deponent then of at length told the said frier that he must take leave of him for that he this deponent was then prepareing to g take his Jorney from thence over Sea for the kingdome of Ireland. Wherevnto the frier answereing said But doe you indeed intend to goe ouer thither, The deponent told him, he did: Vpon which the said frier (in great earnestnes) diswaded & advised him not to goe [ ] over but rath advised him rather to stay with and amongst his frends in Walls, And withall asked this deponent if he did not observe troubles comeing: he answered hee knew of none, nor heard of any thing that might breed trouble: Howbeit this deponent then told the said frier That
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the kinges Maiesty (as he was had bin enformed) had by the Advise of his high Court of parliament awarded a Comission vnder the great seale of England for disarming of all the Recusants in England: Whereto the frier gave noe further Answere But only againe earnestly advised the deponent to stay in Wales & by noe meanes to goe into Ireland: To which the deponent saying I hope there wilbe noe trobles in Ireland & if you knowe of any I pray you tell mee: But he said It was is enowgh for mee to tell you that great troubles are comeing or wordes to that effect And therevpon the deponent tooke his leave & parted from him admireing what he meant by those advises & perswasions: The Deponent further saith That about the xxvth of August then following in the said yere 1641 This deponent mett the said frier in the high way betweene the Citty of Chester & Nantwich in Cheshire where they falling into discourse the frier (after salutacion & some other discourse), asked the deponent if he held his purpose and intended Jorney for Ireland, he Answerd he did, & was then vpon his Jorney thitherwardes Will not you (said the frier) be advised by mee to stay amongst your frendes in Wales, he replied I hope there wilbe noe trobles in Ireland, & if you know of any, I pray you enforme mee thereof: But the said frier (as he had done before at London) sayd It was is enough for him mee to tell to tell you that there are great troubles comeing And that it wilbe the safest way for you to stay in Walles: The deponent then saying that he had noe meanes in Wales, & that his wife and children were at Dublin in Ireland, hee vnto
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vnto that said, I beleeve your frendes in Wales will not see you want, or wordes to that effect, And soe they parted: And on or about the xxviijth of the same moneth of August 1641 this deponent comeing to the howse of one Edward Pennant of Bagelt in the County of fflint Esquire in north wales: The said Edward Pennant (being a Recusant & the Deponentes neere kinsman) had then and there in his company his owne wife, and twoe old men whom the deponent beleeveth were either Romish preists or friers; In whose presence he called for beere & wyne & cawsed the Deponent to drinck & desired & much importuned him to stay there all night but he perceiving the wind comeing sowthwardly told the said Mr Pennant That he could not stay, but hoped the next day to gett to sea towardes Ireland: Wherevpon vpon the said Pennant came out of his howse & brought him about a Myle of his way or above: In which way & tyme he then asked very earnestly If this deponent in deed purposed to goe for Ireland, & being answered that he did, the said Pennant then and there replied Doe not you observe great troubles comeing. he answered he knew of none. but told him That you he the said Pennant & the rest of the Recusants in England were to be disarmed yet I he hoped there would bee noe trouble att all: but but said that if you know of any I pray you (Cozen) enforme mee, The said Mr Pennant vnto that replied There are great troubles comeing and therefore I advise you not to goe for Ireland, The deponent answereing I have noe meanes here: But I have a wife & children in Ireland & meanes there: he thereto said
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That for meanes I will tell you what I will doe for you, stay you here & send for your wife & children over: And if the troubles doe not end in a yere twoe, or three: you shall all have as good meat drinck lodging & apparell from mee as I have my self: What is your reason good Cozen (said the deponent) of such your large proffer the like was neuer offered mee in my dayes: Oh Cozen said hee, your father & my father were Cozen Jermans & were fellow travellers together beyond seas & noe brothers loved better then they wee did one another; & I loved your father as well as any brother that ere I had & there I offer you this, or to that effect, Att which this Deponent was much troubled, earnestly desireing him That if he knew of any troubles like to happen in Ireland to reveale it But he still sayd It is enowgh for mee to tell you that there are great troubles comeing And then alsoe he told this Deponent that one of his daughters was then comen into I attending the Lady Muskery in Ireland, whom I he could wish were there in Walles: And yet for all theis wordes this deponent beleeving noe danger to follow, tooke first thancked the said Mr Pennant for his large proffer, and then takeing leave, left him; & the next day tooke shipping & soe arrived at Dublin: Howbeit the night after the said last discourse, he this Deponent lodging att Bagilt att his brothers howse, & in the morning goeing along with Captain William Morgan to his howse nere nere at hand, was sent vnto thither fr to goe & dyne with the said Pennant but refuseing & then acquainting the said Captain with that which the said Mr Pennant had said vnto him he the said Captaine thereto said It is like enough there is some Roaguery amongst theis papistes
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Papistes: & you shall stay with mee as long as you are on this side of the water: And this deponent further sayth That about Aprill last in this present yeare 1645 the said frier Parry the deponentes before named kinsman arriving in this kingdome came to him this deponent to his howse in skipplane Dublin where (after bare salutacion, & some he vsed theis wordes to this deponent (in the presence of this deponentes wife) vizt Ah Cozen had not you better have bin advised by mee in E and stayd in walls, the deponent answereing, said, If you had fully & plainly told me what trobles would have happened in this kingdome I would have bin advised by you: But he repl i ed & said it was enough for mee to tell you that great troubles were comeing, And then alsoe tould this deponent That he was comen over to preach vnto the Irish to submitt to a peace: Doe you thinck there wilbe any peace here (said the deponent) If there be not a peace (said he) I am goeing now said the fryer to Kilkenny to preach vnto the Irish for peace, And that if noe peace ensue, another kingdome is as good for mee as this, or wordes to that effect: By all which passages this deponent is certenly perswaded in his conscience That both the said ffrier Parry & the said Mr Pennant att the tymes of their seuerall discourses with him this deponent in England & walls had sure notice that the Irish papistes of this Kingdome of Ireland would run into Rebellion and robb & distroy thEnglish, And that most of the gentry that were papists in England had the like notice thereof & consented & agreed therevnto, As this deponent is alsoe veryly perswaded
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He: Parry
Delivered vpon his oath aforesaid the 17th of March 1645 vnto vs
Hen: Clogher
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Mr Henry Parrys last examinacion
dated 17o Marcij 1645
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