Deposition of John Moore

Date: 1642-02-22

Identifier: 812197r166

County: Carlow & Killkenny

Deposition Type: Dublin Original

Nature of Deposition: Apostacy, Assault, Death, Robbery, Stripping, Words

Commissioners: Roger Puttock, William Hitchcock

Deposition Transcription:

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The depositions of John Moore Clerk prebend of Rahoure belonging vnto the Cathedrall church of St Cannice in the citie of Kilkenny sworne & examined deposeth and saith concerninge the treacherouse robberies most cruelly acted b y the rebels, against the holl pasto u r s and protestants of the countie and citie of Kilkenny: At Dublin the 22 of feb: 1641
<That> About the midle of December last The rebels began to act ther roberys and rebellion against the holl protestants of the said countie, Without distin{c}tione or shewing the least favour vnto any, most cruelly robbing them all of ther wholl goods whatsoever they could fynd apprehend, drvying them from ther dwel{l}ing houses, striping very many of ther clothes and most cruelly beating them, of whom a great numbe{r} dyed, through the extrem coldnesse of the weather of the many of which in many I h e e was eywitnesse: Nay such was ther perfidiouse dealing, that having by thes vyll and cruell meanes compeled many to abjure ther religione vpon promise of restitutionn of ther goods, yet having obteined ther end had not so much respect vnto ther promises, as Ethnicks or Turks Woul { d } : But what they had once gotten into ther hands litle or no restitution at all; which can be verefeed in diverse of the countie, which vpon trell or inquisitione I shall be ready to produce: As Joseph Wheeller of Mackarti{ } Master Bignall minni ster And the rebells Thus having wealnygly ended ther robbery vpon the wholl protestants <A> of the countie of Kilkenny at large, in the space of 10 dayes, about the 17 or 18 of decemb 1641 they began to act the sam vpon the protestants of the citie itselfe: and were so welcomeed by the citizens (being for the most part all papists) That so far wer they from making the leest shew of oppositione, or defence of ther citie against them, That willingly and of ther accorde they did open ther wholl gates and ports vnto them, and having received them within ther citie, I was an eywitnesse of many of ther sheefe citizens, openly and boldly to joyne with them in robing of the wholl protestants, with of the citie with out favour vnto any and to beco{me} sheefe actours in the rebellione, as Robert Tobin merchant Mr Sallenger appottigary , Mr Pembrok merchant, and a great many m{ore} whois names escapes my his memorie thoughe knowen vnto me furst by face <B> : nay & both ther Shireffs of the citie, Richard Morphey and Mr Pur Pursle, I hee did see with my his eyes not only to be sheefe actors of the robberies, but receivers also of almost thewholl robed goods of the protestan{ts} into ther custodie, and did distribut the sam amongst the sheef offi{cers} of the rebels, most lyke according vnto the direction of ther alderm{en} the Mair, and counsellers of the citie being then for the { } as Mr Archer Mair, Robert Shea [ ] [ ] { }

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<C> on of ther counsell, Mr Heny Archer on of ther counsell & Perce Rooth on of ther coun<sell> Mr Shea register of the citie, and the rest But must cruell of all, Wer they in ther robing against which of the pastors and ministers of the citie in making taking from them all of vs of our goods: in beating without exceptione striping and most despytfully abusing of diverse as Mr Smith Mr John Kerny Mr Allan Lamond Mr John Jones, Mr Gro[ ]sto Mr Anthony Sharpe, and others, And on minister ther was who being a stranger and flying for his lyfe to Kilkenny, was so cruelly beaten robed and stripted by the rebels, that immediatly he becam distracted in his wites, and dyed in the citie, but was bureed by vs of the citie ministerie of the citie, in a comly and honest forme. Nay And Such was ther implacable furie against all of v s the protestants in the generall, that being although vtterly robed of their goods, and for the most part driven from our houses, and Such as did remain in ther houses in continuall jeperdie of their lyfes, having no thing left them to live vpon, yet this did not suffice them rebells, But they passed an act amongst themselues against vs, that no papist within the citie shoulde hensfourth give vnto any protestant whatsoever ether herbour, meat or drink or any sustenance. Whatsoever Sub poena, That Whosoever did faile therein to [ ] in the least measoure, Shoulde become a pray vnto ther discontented gentlemen (as they termed the rebels) in both persone and goods, in as high an missour as if he we{re} an protestant: Which act was immediatly therafter was so strictly put in exsecution, That against vs, That had not the noble Countesse of Ormonde (dweling in the castle of Kilkenny for the tyme) piteed and commiserat our case in receiving all of vs forthmost into her house, and given vs entertenment for a tyme, and procured vs from my Lord Montgerrat a guard to conduct vs vnto the citie of Watterfoorde for our transportatione out of the kingdome, doutlesse nan of vs, whether ministers or laymen had escaiped stripinge, if not starvinge:
And though my Lord Montgerrat at the noble countess of Ormond her ernes{t} entreatie was pleased to promise vnto her honour, vpon his honoure to procure and give vs a safe conduct, from Kilkenny vnto Watterfoorde for our transportatione from thence out of the kingdome, he being appoynted but a litle befor, by the Staite State, Martiall generall, and governour of the county, vpon the deepest protestations of his loyeltie and best service against the rebels: yet who so with an impartiall ey <D> will but look vnto his Lo: practeeses tawards vs protestants, Since the receiving of this his new office, I d ar may be bold to aver, that (whatever { } his Lo: makes pretends [ ] [ ] [ ] h is open practeeses, against vs [does] savour too much
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and gives at the least a toe too shrewd appearance of the cont{rary} for first not withstanding of his Lordshipps former promeese {upon} <K> his honour vnto so noble a personage for our safe conduct {to} Watterfoorde, his second son Mr Butler having r{eceived} from vs the Sum of 26 libb ster for his pains, collected it vp out of the poor meanes which som of vs had accidentially <kepte> kepted from the rebels hands, being 160 or ther about in numbe{r}and in nam of his father having again maid the sam promeese an{d} protestations and being accompanyed the said Mr Butler un dertaking his fathers promisse of saffe conduct with about 100 armed men having received vs from the Noble Countess of Ormonde hee ha{ving} vnto his safe conduct protectione and Tuitione All the perform{ance} of both ther promeeses which we did find: Was that having conducted {vs} som ten myles from the citie of Kilkenny, Ther did he leave {vs} but midle way vnto Watterfoorde, In the very midst of our enimy the rebels, and being destitut of armes, and exposed vnto ther furie a{nd} cruelty: In which our so eminent and imminent danger, had not th{ } gentlmen, Mr Butler son to Sir Richard Butler, Tobie Butle{r} <ff> and Mr Sweetman, compassionated our est ait, and with ther [ ] [ ] conducted vs vnto Watterfoorde; all of vs no dout had be{en} stripted: But having escaiped thus vnto Watterfoorde; Thes ou{r} 3 fornamed conducters befor vs went over the river by bott vnto Watterfoorde, preyed vpon what poor moneyes was left amongst vs which t he y [presed] from vs vpon our aothes, and parted it amongst themsel{ves} without restoring on fardenig vnto any, Sending all of vs ov{ } alyk rut h vnto Watterfoorde: Whither having came vnto ther p{ } And when we came to Waterford the lyk courtesee we did receive there for thoughe we had the countes{s} of Ormond her letter vnto the Mair and citie for to rece{ive} vs, vntill occasion of shiping offered vnto England for our transportatione, yet having stood with the rest at ther ports som 3 or 4 hoores all the courtesee which I we did see was some 5 or 6 whyt small laoves, throwen over ther port heedes amon{gst} vs, but no apparance of entrie vnto any: And so I the deponent left them a{nd} went for tooke shiping vnto Passage the next toune
And Truly we what mor courtesee or fidelitie had we protestants reason to e xsp{ } at my Lord Montgerrat handes who being And further sayth That the lo: Mountgarret was in the citi of Kilke{nny} almost all the whyll of our robinge and thoughe he was accom{pani}ed with with about two hundreth armed men, and able { } according vnto his place of being governor of the c{o}unt{ie} { }

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have defended vs against the strengh of all the rebels; yet so far was he all the whyll, from opposing them that he did rather countenance them, many of the rebels wer his servants and tennents, and & did openly professe that whatsoever they did, they did it by his Lordship directione : <{ }> Whill as the rebels wer robing any rich papist in the citie, he was sur to resue them, as he did Doctor Giffirde, James Archdiacone Patrick Morphey and Robert Morphey, ther goods, But whill as all the protestants in the citie were robed, som beaten and striped by the Rebells he did not no so much as once frawne vpon theme. If thes and the lyk his lo. practeeses be not sufficient to demonstrat, his dishonest andes and of what disposition he is, Sur no good tokens at least that his Lordship is [ ] not much better disposed Subject no r himselfe then he was in his yonger yeeres, When with with the rebels, he was the sheefe actour in the burning of the Suburbes of the citie of Kilkenny in the last rebellion
As for [ ] my awi n this deponentes particular losses and dammages, by the forsaid robberie of the citie of Kilkenny being an indweller in it, breefly they be these as first being Som 3 full yeeres agoe lawfully presented, inducted and jnstituted in the Viccarag of Kilmaccahell and having peacably enjoyed the sam ever Since, Vntill of lat I n July last Mr Robert <H> Shea, Esquyr, James Kelly in Gorrhan, James Walshe Esquyre did most violently without once questioning my his title, in any courte, Set my holl small tythes of the forsaid Viccarage over my heed, vnto tennents of ther awin: And though therafter vpon my his petition vnto the Lord justices of Essayes I hee obteined an order against them for restitution of my his holl tythes and [ ] [ ] in my possession and did deliver the said Order vnto the Shireffe of the countie to be put in exsecution, yet the most part of the partees [ ] whom the order concerns being now turned rebells I am he is both frustrated & dispoyled of his of my possession of my his livinge, and of restitution also of my <{g}reat> tythes, for this last yeeres, of estimat vnto the value of 40 libb ster Was And this deponent [ ] was by the Rebells robed also bookes, money, clothes, and houshell goods by the rebe{lls} themselues vnto the value of 40 libb
Was robed also of Bonds for money a debted vnto, extending vnto the sume of 53 libb: Summa 133 libb
Who And for those whoe wer the sheefe actors in robing of the protestants of the coun{tie} and citie in Kilkenny, ther names so many of ther names as I remember be these Mr Badgnall, once high Shireffe of the countie of Caterloughe Walter Butler of Polstone: Richard Commerford in Kilmaccahell on Mr Arthur Dane James Kelly of Gorhan his eldest sone {Red}mond Pursell of Kilmaccahell: Wusel Grace [ ] Mr Robert Grace {of Courtstowne Nay by too many evidencs it appeares That the robbery & rebellion}
<commited in the said coun{tie &} citie of Kilkenny, hee b{eene done by a league & combination of the wholle cheefe Papistes in both}

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The forsaid John Moore clerk depones And this deponent further saith that he is dispossessed by th e rebells of his possessionne and holl yeerly profites, Both of his prebendarie of Aghonr, and Viccarage of Kilmackahell, extending vnto the value of About 80 libb ster a yeere: & is like to loose the proffits hereafter till a peace be setled
John Moore
jurat 22 ffebr: 1641
Roger Puttocke
William Hitchcocke

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A Cert

Deponent Fullname: John Moore

Deponent Gender: Male

Deponent Occupation: Prebendary

Deponent County of Residence: Kilkenny

Mentioned Non-Deponent Fullnames: Joseph Wheeller, Master Bignall, Robert Tobin, Mr Sallenger, Mr Pembrok, Richard Murphey, Mr Pursle, Archer Mair, Robert Shea, Heny Archer, Perce Rooth, Mr Shea, Lord Montgerrat, Robert Shea, James Kelly, James Walshe, Mr Badgnall, Walter Butler, Richard Commerford, Arthur Dane, James Kelly, {Red}mond Pursell, Wusel Grace, Robert Grace, Mr Smith, John Kerny, Allan Lamond, John Jones, * Gro[ ]sto, Anthony Sharpe, Doctor Giffirde, James Archdiacone, Patrick Morphey, Robert Morphey, Countesse of Ormonde, Mr Butler, Sir Richard Butler, Tobie Butle{r}, Mr Sweetman

Mentioned Non-Deponent Roles: Witness, Witness, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned