Deposition of Walter Baldwin

Date: 1642-10-22

Identifier: 823165r154

County: Cork

Deposition Type: Bysse

Nature of Deposition: Apostacy, Captivity, Multiple Killing, Robbery, Words, Succour, Lost By Debt

Commissioners: Philip Bisse, Robert Southwell

Deposition Transcription:

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Walter Baldwin late of Granahoonicke Parish of Templemartin barony of Kynelmeky & within the County of Corke gentleman (a brittish protestant) duely sworne and examined by vertue of his maiesties Comission beareing date &c deposeth & saith That on or aboute the first of January & diuers times since the begining of this present rebellion in Ireland he lost was robbed and forceably dispoiled of his goods and Chattles to the seuerall values following vizt value of 913 li. Partly consisting of debts owinge by the parties hereafter named whoe are all now in Rebellion vizt
Of Cowes oxen steeres heiffers yerlinges mares horses sheepe & swine to the value of one hundred foure scor & one pounds Of houshould stuffe to the value of thirty pounds Of hay & Corne in the haggard & house to the value of foure score & ten pounds Of Corne lost in ground by meanes of this rebellion to the value of foure score pounds Of Implements of husbandry to the value of ten pounds Of linnen & other vtensills belonging to this deponents house to the value of fortie shillinges The deponent saith that by meanes of this presente rebellion in Ireland he is dispossessed of the seuerall leases followeing vizt Of the lands of Masketh wher { in } he hath a tearme of fiue & Twenty yeeres yeett to come woorth aboue the lands lords rent foureteene pounds per annum he is damnified by loos{e}ing the benefitt of the said lease the sume of on{e} hundred pounds Of another farme for twenty ye{eres} to come or therabouts of the plowland of Kilbarry in {the}

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said County woorth Coibus annis six & twenty pounds per annum aboue the land lords rent wherin he is damnified one hundred & fiftie pounds . L ikewise of another lease of a parcell of land called Lisnebanry in the said County for seaven yeeres to come woorth to this deponent fiue pounds per annum aboue the land lords rent wherin he is damnified Twenty pounds . Of debts amounting to the sume of three two hundred seaventy pounds at least parte wherof is due from the vndernamed persons vizt Arte mc Cnoghor o Lery of Maning in the said County gentleman Donell mc Morogh mc Swiny of ffarren <A> sesry in the said County gentleman Charles Carty of ClonCorban in the said County gentleman Honora Cartie widdowe Donogh mc ffynen Cartie of Kilmccranroge in the said County gentleman John Bayes late of Bandonbridge in the said County merchant & diuers other persons whose names this deponent canot now remember because his servants & ouerseers of his estate canot be produced before vs to discouer the names of his said debtors . Hee saith that the parties aboue named are nowe in actuall rebellion [ ] therefore th i s deponent canot gett satisfaction from them . The totall of his losses amounts to nyne hundred & thirteene pounds besides the losse of the benefitt of his freehould estate in the land of Granahoonicke aforesaid woorth Coibus annis foure score pounds per annum & foure score pounds mortgadge vppon the lands of Knocksaharne parte of the lands of Dermod mc Donnell mc ffynene Carty of Donderer[lle] in the said County gentleman nowe in actuall rebellion & vpon the halfe plowland of Gortnebriny in the said County parte of the the lands of Callaghane

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mc Teige mc Donell oge Carty of the same gentleman nowe in actuall rebellion both which this deponen t <hand> leaues to future Consideration This deponent further saith that aboute the begining of this rebellion in Munster the deponent layeing reposeing much confidence in the pretended loyalty of the lord of Muskry becawse of his & this deponents former acquaintance & familiarity with <B> his lordshipp came vnder his protection to Mocrum whereby this deponent canot discouer the names of the rebells that tooke his goodes away this deponents goods & Cattle that he left behind him This deponent further deposeth that But aboute Tweluetide last this deponent haueing caryed his wife & children to Mocrum aforesaid & not long after seuerall complaints being made to the late lord President against the Tenants & followers of the said lord Muskry for their Thefts & robberies vpon & against the English, his lordshipp in this deponents heering seemed to be very zealous for the English partie in his partie Country & threatened to hange & prosecut the parties that comitted the same which was on e ly in colour collor as his lordshipp was obseru ed to doe presently partly [ ] afterwards for aboute shrouetide afterwards this deponent did obserue the said lord of Muskry making greate preparations for warr together with the cheefe gentlemen in the Country namely Garrett Barry nowe Titulary generall of Munster Dermod mc Teige Carty of Incherahelly in the said County gen{tleman} Owen mc Swiny of Mashanaglasse in the said Count{y} Cormacke mc Callaghane Carty of Cargymucke in {the said} County gentleman, Dermod mc Teig Carty of Tuohogege {in} the said County gentleman Donogh mc Owne mc Teige { } of Drissane in the said County gentleman Cnoghor Merig{agh}

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<C> O lery of Cornecorry in the said County gentleman Donnell o Lery (brother to the said Cnoghor) Donnell mc Owen mc Swiny of Castlenehinsy Capteine of the said lord of Muskry his Gallyglasses, William O Herly of Ballyvorny in the said County gentleman, James Browne Sir Walintines brownes brother deceased, Donell mc ffynene of Ardtullihy in the County of Kiery Esquire & his brother fflorence mc ffynene alias Capteine sugan deceased, Cornelius Cronyne neere Blarny in the said County gentleman gentleman nowe Collonell to the said lord of Muskry his regiment Donogh mc Carty, mc Dono{gh} of Duhalla his eldest son, in the County gentleman & diuers other gentlemen of the said County their names this deponent doth re not remembereth not knoweth not & haueing brought their forces together in a rebellious & hostill maner did march away to besiedge encampe against the Cittie of Corke as they pretended his lordshipp consisting of the number of a thousand me{n} of his owne, besides his confederats forces This deponent likewise saith that presentely after the defeate giuen to the said Muskry at Richfordstowne nere Corke he this deponent was dissarmed at Mocrum aforesaid & kepte straight watch vpon him this deponent for a long while vntill at length aboute the 20th or 21th of July last this deponent was comitted close prisoner & soe continued for ten weeckes together He likewise saith that aboute Easter last dureing his time of Imprisonment one Robert Scott late of Newceston in the said County his wife & two daughters former ly English protestan ts their names he knoweth not, were cruelly murthered in a place neere Cloghdea in the said County but by whome he know{eth} not. likewise dureing this deponents said Imprisonment Mrs Hussey the wife of Dauid Hussey of Mocrum aforesaid & her daughter Katherin Hussey Henry Hussey her son

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<Sonne> the wife of Edmond Croker late of Cahirdahir in the said County gentleman, Mary Croker her daughter the wife of Charles Webber deceased late of the parish of Mocrum, Adrian Webber his son & one of his daughters, George the miller late of Cloghiny in the said County yeoman & his wife Dorothy John Smaleman late of Glanorogh in the said County nayler, were all them aboute the 16th of August last cruelly murthered by the rebells in the way betweene Blarny & Corke as this deponents is <C> credibly informed. This deponent lastly saith that Conor Merigagh o Lery aforesaid & diuers other gentlemen as often as he this deponent had any discourse with them, tould this deponent (he (demanding why the enemy did ruynat the County & robb & spoyle the English in that maner as they did) he answered & said, that it was intended in England to extirpat all the papists in this kingdome where vpon they tooke armes, in the first place for the defence of their relligion & nexte to mainteine his Maiesties prerogatiue which the parliament nowe (infected with puritanisme) did mainly oppose they did likewise alleadge that they had his Maiesties Comission to take armes, to mainteine their relligion & his prerogatiue, but what other outrages or robberies were comitted by the vulgor sorte it was without their consent as he then alleadged & further he deposeth not that John Symons the ffrenchman formerly liueing {at} Bandonbridge & formerly a professed protestant is since this rebelli{on} turned papists & braggs often times to this deponent{s} knowledge of killing & slaughtering the English

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& protestants He lastly saith that aboute the 20th of 7ber last this deponent saith haueing occation to confer with one Cornelius O Linchy a ffranciscan ffryar <D> & guardian of the Monastery of Kilkre & demanding whether euer we should see a period of these times or any peace concluded he answered Noe for the English must conquer vs or we all must cutt off the English or protestants, for god blesse the kinge he is of our side & doth favour the our Cause or woords to that effecte. & further he deposeth not John Beuerston of largifooky in the said County Turner formerly a protestant is since likewise since this rebellion turned papist & is Imployed by the rebells to make bandeleros & further he deposeth not
Walter Baldwin
Jurat corma nobis
22o 8bris 1642
Phil: Bisse
Ro Southwell

The examination of
Walter Baldwin
for the death of Mr Scott Mris
Hussy & others
535
Corke
Nu 74
R
Lo: of Muskery
Nu 74
D 15 hand

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Deponent Fullname: Walter Baldwin

Deponent Gender: Male

Deponent Occupation: Gentleman

Deponent County of Residence: Cork

Mentioned Non-Deponent Fullnames: Arte mc Cnoghor o Lery, Donell mc Morogh mc Swiny, Charles Carty, Honora Cartie, Donogh mc ffynen Cartie, John Bayes, Dermod mc Donnell mc ffynene Carty, Callaghane mc Teige mc Donell oge Carty, lord of Muskry, Garrett Barry, Dermod mc Teige Carty, Owen mc Swiny, Cormacke mc Callaghane Carty, Dermod mc Teig Carty, Donogh mc Owne mc Teige { }, Cnoghor Merig{agh} O lery, Donnell o Lery, Donnell mc Owen mc Swiny, William O Herly, James Browne, Donell mc ffynene, fflorence alias Capteine sugan mc ffynene, Cornelius Cronyne, Donogh mc Carty, * mc Dono{gh, Walintines browne, lord President, his Maiestie, Robert Scott, Mrs Hussey, Dauid Hussey, Katherin Hussey, Henry Hussey, Edmond Croker, Mary Croker, Charles Webber, Adrian Webber, George *, Dorothy *, John Smaleman, John Symons, Cornelius O Linchy, John Beuerston

Mentioned Non-Deponent Roles: Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Debtor, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Mentioned, Mentioned, Mentioned, Victim, Victim, Mentioned, Victim, Victim, Mentioned, Victim, Mentioned, Victim, Victim, Victim, Victim, Rebel, Rebel, Apostate